bona natural seal on white oak
! Absolutely, I can see that. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. Its for a new build. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. The coating should not come up. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. I am sorry , Thank you!! Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. All you have are tge home centers to choose from. The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) They look closer to the raw wood tone. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. We love our floors! Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. It did not affect the color. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. white oak hardwood flooring. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. Web108K views 6 years ago. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. Is the Nordic still a problem? and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. Sigh. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. That means a single guy can take his time. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. Hi everyone! It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Yes, Trump2 I agree. Right? Just seemed so right. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. I am very picky with the stones I purchase. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? Our project starts on Dec 5. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. Skip the 'money saving'. I still hope to get my dream kitchen. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! what made you decide to go with natural. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? Anyway, good luck. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. They both marked, but the oil was harder to see. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Ask for Bona Mega One. (followed by Traffic HD). (Just read the dog drool threads.) Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). Please leave this post up. You only need an inch. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. . And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? It should have had one extra coat of protectant. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. I like natural white oak with your concept. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. @skru33 Thanks! It is less than $0.85/sf. Apply and wipe off excess. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. Floors look VERY good! It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. new and it will be white oak common # 1. The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. I screwed that up a few times. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Ours is from Norway. Heres a close up. We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. Which one did you end up going with? And all the answers. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). It was not supportive or helpful. And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. When was the last coat applied? If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. This is part and parcel of your payment. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. p.s. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. And you want to have 3 coats total. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. :). There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? Thanks! The reason: they turn orange. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. Hi! My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Thanks so much in advance!! I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? It was light and made the room appear larger. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. You only need an inch. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. Think NCAA and NBA courts. They have little to no chemical resistance. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. You have a special floor. Please convince me not to settle with maple. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Thanks so very much Shannon. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. I absolutely love the floors. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". Yeah, thats what I am realizing. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. That's what I ended up doing. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? We also added the clerestory windows like you did. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. P.S. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Which possibly suggests installation issue. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural.